[Discussioni] La circolare

jaromil jaromil a dyne.org
Lun 26 Mar 2001 00:25:18 CEST


On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 01:11:46AM +0200, Alessandro Rubini wrote:

> > Un collega mi ha detto che il vincolo software e` dovuto al fatto di potere 
> > avere una gestione degli utenti che permetta la sicurezza dei documenti 
> > dell'amministrazione e per il fatto che il MURST ha intenzione in futuro di 
> > creare una rete globale per gli istituti di alta cultura per la quale 
> > windows 2000 e` indispensabile.

non penso che sia difficile confutare da un punto di vista tecnico
l'analisi che ha portato alla formulazione di una tale circolare :>

sarei curioso di sapere chi siano i "periti" consultati dal MURST ...

allego un documento un po' vecchiotto ma che magari puo' aiutare a
chiarire le idee a chi si preoccupa delle spese, se qualcuno ne ha uno
piu' aggiornato gli sarei grato se me lo passasse.

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From: Stephen Edwards 
Subject: ATTN: Consultants -- WindowsNT vs. Linux:  A Cost Analysis
Date: 7 Mar 1998 02:30:02 -0700

         Something perplexes me... WindowsNT advocates are always talking about how
         much more UNIX costs in comparison to WindowsNT.  While I'll agree,
         commercial UNIXen and applications are quite expensive, I cannot help but
         to be astonished by the costs associated with WindowsNT.  Compared to the
         costs of setting up, and maintaining freeware UNIX based networks,
         Microsoft is most surely bilking the common businessman, in this author's
         opinion.

         This is the software I would have to purchase in order set up a
         basic, useable WindowsNT based office network for 100 users.  In this
         scenario, I am going to hang all 100 clients off of an NT server box.  We
         won't go into detail about the hardware we need.  I have also left off the
         costs of applications, because that sort of need is too variable to
         consider in this analysis.  These prices are the suggested retail prices
         listed on Microsoft's own web site.

         Product Description     Qty       $/item        Subtotal cost
         -------------------     ---     --------        -------------
         Microsoft WindowsNT
         Server v4.0 Standard
         Edition w/ 25 client
         licenses                001      1619.00              1619.00

         1 Extra WindowsNT
         Server client
         license                 090        39.95              3595.50 

         Microsoft WindowsNT
         Workstation v4.0        100       319.00             31900.00

         IIS FTP Server          001         0.00                 0.00

         Site Server Web
         site server             001      1499.00              1499.00

         Microsoft Exchange
         v5.5 E-mail server
         w/ 25 client licenses   001      2129.00              2129.00

         5 Microsoft Exchange
         client licenses         015       369.00              5535.00

         Microsoft Proxy
         Server                  001       999.00               999.00

         Microsoft SQL
         Server w/ 25
         client licenses         001      3999.00              3999.00

         5 Microsoft SQL
         client licenses         015     11085.00             11085.00
         -------------------------------------------------------------
         Total cost for my office network w/100 clients:       $62,360.00

         While this total cost does seem relatively cheaper than say,
         Sun's, or SCO's pricing, the customer ends up paying large
         sums of money for technical support.  Sun also seems to have
         a much more flexible support policy than Microsoft does.

         Pay Per Incident                $   195.00 per one incident
         Priority Annual Support         $  1695.00 per ten incidents
         Priority Plus                   $20,000.00 per 100 incidents
         Priority Consult Line           $   195.00 per hour

         Keep in mind, that these are just initial startup costs.  There will also
         be costs associated with employee time spent setting up the software,
         which under WindowsNT, is quite lengthy, and tedious, thanks to "setup
         wizards".  Even if a corporation spends less on Microsoft than it would
         on a set of comparable commercial UNIX offerings, freeware still has a
         clear advantage.

         Now... let's say I want to install a freeware UNIX based network on the
         exact same hardware.

         Product Description     Qty       $/item        Subtotal cost
         -------------------     ---     --------        -------------
         Linux Kernel 2.0.33
         for the server (any
         freeware *BSD variant
         could also be used
         here)                   001         0.00                 0.00

         Client licenses         inf*        0.00                 0.00

         Linux for the
         client boxen            100         0.00                 0.00

         Built-in FTP
         serving capabilities    001         0.00                 0.00

         Apache Web Server       001         0.00                 0.00

         POP3 Mail Server        001         0.00                 0.00

         Mail Server client
         licenses                inf         0.00                 0.00

         Built in proxy
         services                001         0.00                 0.00

         Just Logic SQLweb       001       219.00               219.00           

         Just Logic SQLweb
         client licenses         100         0.00                 0.00
         -------------------------------------------------------------
         Total cost for my office network w/ 100 clients:      $219.00

         * inf denotes an 'infinite' number allowed

         And that cost is for the commercial offering alone.  As for
         technical support, well... here is some information taken
         from http://www.ssc.com.
         -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Thursday, February 12, 1998

               InfoWorld announces Linux as winner in two 1997 "Best of" Awards

               InfoWorld recently announced their Best Of awards. Linux was not
              just awarded once, but twice! Red Hat Software was the recepient of
                 the InfoWorld 1997 Product Of The Year award for their Linux
                 distribution. The Linux user community won the award for Best
                                      Technical Support.
         -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
         Linux is also steadily showing up in Hollywood.  It has been used to aid
         in batch processing data for movies such as "Dante's Peak", and the highly
         acclaimed "Titanic".  Many corporations are betting their enterprises on
         Linux.

         So, in conclusion, all I can see freeware doing, is improving steadily,
         and giving anyone and everyone everything for nothing.  Whereas, all I can
         see Microsoft doing is charging more, and more for products that perform
         substandardly anyhow.  So, now tell me who has a cost advantage...

         Please feel free to redistribute this article freely, in print, or in
         electronic form.




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