[Discussioni] [abarrio a ffii.org: European Commission accepts communications in OpenDocument]

Ven 30 Giu 2006 13:22:42 CEST

Questo è un messaggio passato su europarl-help a ffii.org, che ho trovato
molto interessante, e che invio qui col permesso dell'autore, che mi
segnala anche:

>For future references, I'm coordinating this too, where you will find
>more information:
>http://www.EstandaresAbiertos.org
>
>I hope you understand Spanish somehow.

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:40:01 +0200
From: Alberto Barrionuevo <abarrio a ffii.org>
Subject: European Commission accepts communications in OpenDocument
To: Europarl-FFII <europarl-help a ffii.org>

Hello,

   attached is the discussion maintained between my company and a public
servant of the E.C. about to receive my documentation in OpenDocument
format.

   This is an example of how public administrations are forced to accept
our documentation in OpenDocument (ISO/IEC 26300)... and, at the end, a
way to get them using it.

   We should repeat this with every public administration (at least in
E.U.) in a way that takes advantage of the net effect and forces them to
use frequently OpenDocument. At the end, OpenDocument should be for them
an absolutely normal file format and, foremost, the official one in some
time.

   Best regards,
     Alberto.

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Alberto Barrionuevo   F.F.I.I.   +34 639708494   abarrio(@)ffiiÂ·org  PGP 1024D/46D729BA
 "Se debe proteger la innovaciÃ³n, no los monopolios" http://economic-majority.com
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     Member of Open Document Fellowship http://opendocumentfellowship.org
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     Corporative member of ODF Alliance http://www.odfalliance.org
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:56:36 +0200
From: MARKT-FUTUR-INTERNALMARKET-POLICY a cec.eu.int
Subject: RE: Answer to Internal Market Cuestionary by OPENTIA, S.L.
To: alberto.barrionuevo a extremadura.es

Dear Sir,

This is just to confirm that I could open your document without further
problems and we will include your contribution in our analysis.

Kind regards, 

As of 9 May 2006 the Commission's e-mail addresses have changed. 
The new address format to be used is forename.name a ec.europa.eu. 
My new e-mail address therefore is: kerstin.ringler-jacob a ec.europa.eu. 
The old addresses will still be valid until May 2007. 

- -----Original Message-----
From: Alberto Barrionuevo (Soluciones" InformÃ¡ticas "Abiertas)
[mailto:alberto.barrionuevo a extremadura.es] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 11:31 AM
To: RINGLER Kerstin (MARKT)
Cc: MARKT FUTURE IM POLICY; abarrio a opentia.es
Subject: RE: Answer to Internal Market Cuestionary by OPENTIA, S.L.

Dear Ms. Ringler,

   I personally just tested that the document correctly opens in
different computer and operative systems from my office. I'm sending it
again anyway to prevent any possible problem in the e-mail transport.
You should be able to open it with any unzipper (uncompressed)
independently of if you can read it or not.

   With the aim to help you and your technical team, I precise that the
document was saved in OpenDocument format (.odt MIME extension), that
is, ISO/IEC 26300, the only legal standard format for office documents
existing currently. You can officially read about this here:

http://www.iso.org/iso/en/commcentre/pressreleases/2006/Ref1004.html

   Also, you can check that this format can be currently used, at least,
by the following office suites:

   Sun StarOffice for Windows, Linux and Solaris operative systems
	http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/index.jsp
	(license cost $69.95)
   OpenOffice.org for Windows, Linux and *BSD operative systems
	http://www.openoffice.org  (installable for free)
   KOffice for Linux and Mac OS X (Apple)
	http://www.koffice.org (installable for free)
   NeoOffice for Mac OS X (Apple)
	http://www.neooffice.org (installable for free)

Indeed, you can open it freely using the following web service (a word
processor) provided by Google:
	http://www.writely.com   (also for free)

And from here you can get a lot of tools to manipulate and open it
(including a plug-in for MS-Office):
  http://sourceforge.net/search/?type_of_search=soft&words=OpenDocument

Last, here you can check the whole list of office applications that
support or will support soon this open & standard document format (in
summary, almost all the industry except one company):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_software

And more info about this standard format for office applications can be
found here in example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opendocument

Where, indeed, you can check that this format was recommended not long
ago by yourself, the European Commission, in the Valoris Report that you
can obtain from your website here:

http://europa.eu.int/idabc/servlets/Doc?id=17982

So, please, I kindly insist you to accept the documentation in the
official format that I've sent, since, from our professional point of
view of experts in open standards matters, we think it is the most
correct and precise and, on the other side, is the only being used in my
company for some years now.

Otherwise, in case that this continues being impossible for you, please,
just propose us any alternative format to deliver to you. 

Thanks in advance.
Best regards,

        Alberto Barrionuevo (CEO & CTO)  OPENTIA S.L.
  Cel.:+34-639708494  Phone:+34-918371704  Fax:+34-918453612  
e-mail: abarrio(@)opentiaÂ·es  SIP:554013743  PGP:1024D/46D729BA
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       http://www.opentia.es    Madrid/Seville - Spain
               "OPENTIA, YOUR OPEN SOLUTIONS"
        Speciality in Interoperability, SAP and IXOS
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El lun, 12-06-2006 a las 17:12 +0200, Kerstin.Ringler-Jacob a cec.eu.int
escribiÃ³:
> Dear Mr Barrionuevo,
> 
> Unfortunately I cannot open your attachment. I checked with our IT service
> and they propose that you check as what kind of file you have saved the
> document. There must have gone something wrong when saving the document
and
> the IT service cannot help me. I hope you can solve the problem at your
side
> and resend your reply which we will read with interest.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Kerstin Ringler
> 
> MARKT B1
> Tel: +32/2/298.64.63
> Fax:+32/2/296.09.50
> e-mail: kerstin.ringler-jacob a ec.europa.eu
> 
> 
> 
> As of 9 May 2005 the Commission's e-mail addresses have changed. 
> The new address format to be used is forename.name a ec.europa.eu. 
> My new e-mail address therefore is: kerstin.ringler-jacob a ec.europa.eu. 
> The old addresses will still be valid until May 2007. 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alberto Barrionuevo (Soluciones" InformÃ¡ticas "Abiertas)
> [mailto:alberto.barrionuevo a extremadura.es] 
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:25 PM
> To: MARKT FUTURE IM POLICY
> Cc: abarrio a opentia.es
> Subject: Answer to Internal Market Cuestionary by OPENTIA, S.L.
> 
> Dear Sirs,
>    please, be so kind to take in considerations the following answer to
> your questionary in your evaluation process.
>    As you could see, it speak mainly about open standards, the
> speciality of our company and a key factor for the market promotion, so,
> taking this in consideration we deliver it using the standard and legal
> editable format ISO 26300 (OpenDocument).
>    We keep available for any further improvement and clarification you
> need and looking forward your analysis.
>    Yours kindly,
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